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April 26, 2007

Virginia Tech Allows Memorial for Shooter

Filed under: crime, hate, hate crime, immigration, murder, News, Religion, Virginia, Virginia Tech — readthis @ 11:42 am

A student organization at Virginia Tech created stone memorials for the 32 murder victims of Seung-Hui Cho, a South Korean immigrant who hated Christians. A 33rd stone for Cho was added by an unknown person and then removed. A 33rd stone has now been added again farther from the others and the student organization says they have no plans to remove it. More info in this article.



    Comment by PAMELA LANIER — April 26, 2007 @ 12:37 pm

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  3. I admire her action. I remember after some of the high school shootings feeling like I wanted to go back to school and reach out to every student that was ever mistreated or bullied by someone. Yes, their action isn’t acceptable, but sometimes I think we also failed these people by either looking the other way or letting them fall through the cracks. People knew this young man had problems. This shouldn’t have happened.

    Comment by Marilyn Chase — April 26, 2007 @ 1:35 pm

  4. I must say that I agree with the above comment. What Cho did is certainly not exceptable, however he deserves to be remembered just as everyone else who lives were taken that horrible day. Cho was a misunderstood child with some serious psychological issues, he didn’t view the world the way everyone else does, that isn’t totally his fault! I think that VT student that added his stone should be commended for her actions. It takes a big person to do something like that and admit it to the nation.

    Comment by Whitney — April 26, 2007 @ 3:01 pm

  5. I admire the student that memorialized the shooter. He was severely troubled and should have had some therapy a long, long time ago. Too often, people ignore this type of condition and if only they would have taken a moment of their time to see that he got some help, this would not have happened. Perhaps somehow, some good could come out of this. I encourage and challenge the educators of this nation to advocate curriculum that would address problems such as the abuse some students inflict on their “victims”. I am speaking of the tormenting and redicule that they impose on those weaker than them. Something needs to be done!!!!! Start a nationwide movement to address this problem before others fall victim to its intrusion!!!!

    Comment by Ohio Grandmother — April 26, 2007 @ 3:06 pm

  6. It would have had more meaning if Katelynn Johnson gad done it anonymously, rather than garner media attention form it…

    Comment by Randi Fredricks — April 26, 2007 @ 3:07 pm

  7. I feel scared for the family. At times like this we must step back and grieve. It is a great loss to everyone, especially the families, All of the Fomilies.
    Koreans have a pride of doing what is right that few americans would comprehend. Family shame can last for many generations. My heart is sad for all those who have personsl loss, and those that are affected emotionally but, please remember the past is the past and anger blocks all worthwhile thought, and positive thought towards making sure this sort of thing does not get repeated.
    Peace and Love to the Hokie Nation DWS

    Comment by Douglas Smith — April 26, 2007 @ 3:08 pm

  8. I totally agree with the young lady’s actions. As someone who attended the funeral of one the Columbine victims, I sat in the same unpopular seat when I expressed sympathy for what the families of the killers must be dealing with. Imagine not only having lost your child, but bearing the burden of having brought someone capable of something so heinous into this world. Imagine trying to sort through what you did or didn’t do that allowed such depth of anger and brutality to manifest into what we previously knew as this generations most brutal domestic crime. Though Cho was the perpetrator, it’s the willingness of those to treat him as nothing that began the festering madness that became April 16 to become what it did.

    I don’t know that I could EVER get over the loss of a loved one through brutality and violence, but I only know from listening to the experiences of those that have that any ability to move on and not die a slow walking death with your loved one, began with the act of forgiveness. It’s not for the perpertrator, but for you.

    Comment by Kathlyn Patterson — April 26, 2007 @ 3:12 pm

  9. She is one sick bitch. She probably thinks that a memorial should be placed for Hitler, Mussolini, Charles Manson, etc!!!!

    Comment by John Castelluccio — April 26, 2007 @ 3:13 pm

  10. I feel deeply sorry for everyone who lost a loved one in this tragedy. That includes the parents of the young man who lost his battle with mental illness. His parents loved him, and will have to deal with his legacy for the rest of their lives, rather than celebrating the graduation they were anticipating. Leave the judgement to God.

    As a teacher in Virginia, I have former students at VaTech now, and I prayed that none of them were among the victims. But even so, I prayed that the killer wasn’t mine either.

    Comment by Katherine Nobles — April 26, 2007 @ 3:19 pm

  11. I believe the young lady that did this is B R A V E, we can all learn something from her about what L O V E truly is, we have lacked compassion but we would all like to claim how good people we are, Love is to love even the UNLOVEABLE, I hope she reads this note and is encouraged, as she knows that God would smile on her for her Bravery and daring to dance to the beat of a different drummer, I would love to meet this woman, gosh, I can tell you the gun “young” man did a senseless act, but remember it tells us more so that people are hurting and in trouble and are right under our noses, and many of us can see but choose to ignore, did some attempt to reach him, allegedly YES, but we must know he must have been in pain and none of us dare to cast a stone unless in the his shoes, we must all confess we all have our uglies in varied degrees, but dare we not be quick with our opionions, but learn more so to pray for those who we consider sick and pathetic or even mad. We need to learn the art of compassion, 33 people did die, and sadly satan has robbed and raped the minds of our young people they dont know if they are coming, I promise you all if we do not put GOD back into the equation of things we will see alot more madness, so you can call her what ever you want but start with yourself, she is BRAVE, BRAVE BRAVE, I only pray she sees this, and ignore all the immature and insulting remarks that will come, you dared not to be popular but showed you feel and have emotions for ALL, gosh you are a Giant amongst women and amongst men!!!!

    Vanessa Evelyn

    I would have done the very same thing unashamed, you just beat many of us to it, and know you have more supporters than you could EVER IMAGINE, I am just so sad that the world is filled with more cowards than brave hearts.

    Comment by Vanessa Evelyn — April 26, 2007 @ 3:28 pm

  12. We have become so morally relative that we actually can’t distinguish between innocent life that was lost to evil, that we can do things to remember the lives that were lost because of the evil as a tribute, but do we want to create a tribute to the evil that killed them? To my thinking that can only be done in terms of that we should remember this in order that we can try to prevent it, such as the Nazi concentration camps, but certainly in no way as a tribute to the person who allowed themselves to perpetuate some evil.
    For all those persons who like to take the easy way out in terms of other moral relativism such as abortion, euthanasia, pre-marital/extra-marital sex, “oh it’s all relative”, you really need to wake up and realize there are kids who are starting to take that nonsense seriously and to its next logical step and they are in our colleges.

    Comment by Jim — April 26, 2007 @ 3:33 pm

  13. It takes a srong person to take a stand when it is not the most popular thing to do. I admire Katelynn for standing up for what’s right. My heart aches for all the victims and their families and that includes Cho.
    The Bible states in Ephesians that we fight not against flesh and blood,but against principalities, and powers,against the rulers of the darkness of this world,against spiritual wickedness in high places.
    We will probably never understand why this terrible act took place. But know people all over the world are praying for you and yours.

    Comment by Wife of a VT graduate — April 26, 2007 @ 3:34 pm

  14. I agree with placing a stone for the deceased gunman. Why? Because God taught us to “forgive one another” (The Lord’s Prayer). What makes this even more tragic than it obviously is is that Cho didn’t get the help that very well may have prevented this horrific tragedy. My heart aches for the families of the 32 victims…………but it also aches for Cho’s family.

    Comment by Jane Boczkowski — April 26, 2007 @ 3:46 pm

  15. I am Korean-American who immigrated from S. Korea in the 60’s as a young boy. The times were simpler back then, and although Korean was still poor country, everybody was much nicer to each other and not so greedy, selfish and materialistic as Korea is today.

    As a father of a freshman son in Boston, I would say “No” in placing a stone for this sick man who wiped out 32 innocent and talented people. If he had so much internal sickness and struggle with being taunted with racial names, and he could only react it by taking other lives, he does not deserve any glory, fame and memorialization. I know more than 1 million Koreans living in USA also are faced with daily discrimination and name calling just like I had to hear young kids calling me “Chink” when I was just waiting for a bus or walking in the street more than i want to recall. But that does not give me and all the rest of Koreans to kill the ones who insulted us let alone the ones who did not even insulted me. Cho gave bad name for the rest of Koreans (even Chinese and Japanese as we are all looked similar by westerners eyes) all over the world. He and his family should be disgraced for the rest of their lives.

    from Tired of News Media giving Cho excuses and justifying the reason for the kilings.

    Comment by James — April 26, 2007 @ 3:48 pm

  16. ‘Those without sin cast the first stone’. Who said that? If you are a believer you must forgive. He was a troubled young man who will pay the price. The example we leave is all we have to those who may come after him. Hating now will do nothing for you or him.

    Comment by ryan l morelli — April 26, 2007 @ 3:55 pm

  17. As a Korean living in USA for long time, had Cho lived I would be so glad to volunteer myself to be a member of a firing squade style execution of this loser.

    He really does not deserve sympathy and love by Christians or by name of any other religion. Even though I believe in god, to me this was an act of evil and even god will not foregive this senseless and most disgraceful act. Those who agree placing the stone for Cho, you will do otherwise if you lost a son or daughter at Virginia Tech, as you will not trivialize your own child’s early and unfortunate death by placing the memorial stone for the killer.

    Comment by James — April 26, 2007 @ 4:01 pm

  18. Just as Jesus did while he was being crusified. He prayed for the guards that beat him and all teh people who spat upon him. We should pray for those who are lost.

    Comment by awiddis — April 26, 2007 @ 4:06 pm

  19. What surprize’s me is after the first Student was shot the rest just stood around & let themselve’s be Killed . I went too school in Cincinnati. In the blink of a eye he would have been drawn & quartered. And thats a fact JACK

    Comment by Lon Cullen — April 26, 2007 @ 4:09 pm

  20. SEVERE Mental Illness is what we’re dealing with here…so yes, we can memorialize the loss of the “shooter” as well as the victims, without in any way trivializing the loss of those victims.

    Comment by Suzanne Bailey — April 26, 2007 @ 4:12 pm

  21. When I heard about the tragedy in Virginia I once again became angry, not at the “murderer” but, at our society that does not know how to deal effectively with its mentally ill. Unfortunately, unless you are personally involved with someone who suffers from mental illness, chances are you will be unable to understand that they too are victims. My brother sought treatment for six years with his illness before he choose instead to take his own life. Unless you have unlimited money, there are no acceptible answers for caring for the menatlly ill. The state hospital that he ended up in was more horrible than your worst nightmare. The fault of the Viginia Tech tragedy lies with our society, not with poor Seung-Hui Cho. It is no more fair to blame the mentally ill for their actions than it would be to blame an alzheimer patient for theirs. Hopefully this event will serve as a catalyst to help create ways to safely provide the mentally ill with the help they need before it’s too late.

    Comment by A Frustrated Sister — April 26, 2007 @ 4:14 pm

  22. Even though he took lives, his life must have been horrific, mentally,to drive him to the point of taking others lives,then his own.Plus there were those who could of intercepted this and did nothing to help him,those “profesionals” are the ones who are truely to blamed.Like it or not it is the truth.

    Comment by Aaron Barrera — April 26, 2007 @ 4:16 pm

  23. does that mean we should have sympathy for jeffrey dahmer and richard ramirez they had mental illness . thats bullshit. he has no right to have a stone anywhere near those students.

    Comment by pissed — April 26, 2007 @ 4:18 pm

  24. I thought only the Amish would have the compassion for such an act of forgiveness and understanding. Amazed that it exists on colleges in America. If my child was slain I’d be angry at the thought of this memorial–some people are far better than me.

    Comment by Andy — April 26, 2007 @ 4:30 pm

  25. I admire someone who has the courage to “stand up for what’s not popular” even though the stand she took clearly seems to be a popular one, however I don’t admire someone who stands up for something that is WRONG! This person does not deserve to be “memorialized”, he deserves to burn in hell. If it weren’t for his cowardice, there wouldn’t need to be any memorials. Nearly everybody gets “bullied” and a lot of people have been constantly picked on or left out, but it’s how you deal with it that shows who you really are. Do you man up, go out and take on life anyways, or do you run into a corner and cry about it. How many people do you hear saying they tried to be friendly to this guy and he wanted no part of it? He’s a candyass and it’s no one’s fault but his own. By memorializing him you have made him a “martyr” and made what he’s done acceptable. He lost his right to a memorial when he opened fire on unarmed, innocent students. He deserves to be erased from history’s memory, not memorialized.

    We’re not dealing with severe mental illness, we’re dealing with severe mental weakness. Who taught him how to be a man?

    I second the comment about who do we memorialize next? Hitler? This person was worthless and deserves no memory.

    Comment by Dan — April 26, 2007 @ 4:47 pm

  26. this guy will burn in hell. why do we need a memorial for him, so we can remember the guy who murdered totally innocent people on a college campus. this is total bull shit and it is also a symbol for what is wrong with this country today. why are we memorializing people who did wrong. didnt anyone see the video of this nut job. i say its a damn good thing he took his life. i dont need poeple like that in my country. this guy should burn in hell along with all you people who agree with this bull shit. peace!!!!!

    Comment by mike — April 26, 2007 @ 4:48 pm

  27. Forgiveness is a great and compassinate thing and should be encouraged, however it has its place. First off it is not up to any of us who have not suffered a loss to forgive, if a parent or spouse or sibling wants to forgive then that would be a noble thing to do, it’s not up to me or you that is presumption. Second when Jesus talks about judging, He is talking about condemning in terms of someone’s ultimate destiny, it is not appropriate for me to condemn someone to damnation, that is up to God. But nowhere in the Bible does it say to be stupid. Murder is condemned by God in His commandments plain and simple and we cannot in anyway excuse or condone it only God can and we must condemn the act of murder and hold the murderer responsible, no one has the right to take life unless that person has been propely adjudged to have violated God’s commandments. Yes it is necessary to be judgmental, we are never told to be brainless, we need to be critical in our thought and glibly quoting the Bible is not critical thinking. If you’re going to quote it study it in all its context, you will find a God who is serious and just, not some silly frumpy old man.

    Comment by Jim — April 26, 2007 @ 4:52 pm

  28. When I was young and liberal I would have agreed w/her to place a stone for the murderer, but having raised 6 kids and educated each one and watched my grandchildren grow, I see this guy for who he is – a murdering, maniac who had no respcet for any of those folks he murdered. Forget the stone and bury him deep in the ground. Honor only those who died at his hands.

    Comment by Rod — April 26, 2007 @ 5:10 pm

  29. i think the chick puts way too much into these rocks acting like somehow not havin a stone there for the dude is a moral injustice… the people grieving at this symbolic site shouldn’t have to be reminded more of the dude than they have to be, it’s about the victims though i guess it could be argued he was too sorta, but as hte news has said people pushed for him to get help and such, he had chances. she hasn’t been brought up to do whats popular but to do something to make her popular

    Comment by race — April 26, 2007 @ 5:13 pm

  30. A memorial is a reward! Katelynn Johnson should change her major!
    Her logic is skewed!
    Rewards bring about a repeated behavior.

    I’m discusted!

    Comment by Bill — April 26, 2007 @ 5:14 pm

  31. It takes courage to stand up for “what is not popular”, and i admire that she can stand up for what she belives in. But did any of her friends and family die? This man should not be memorialized!! He killed 32 INNOCENT people!! He knew what he was doing “illness” should not be an excuse.If he was TRULY, TRULY, suffering terribly by an illness someone would have sent him to a mental hospital. The families that lost loved ones in this terrible tragedy should decide if there should ever be a memorial for the man that killed THEIR loved ones.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 26, 2007 @ 5:15 pm

  32. You memorialize War heroes, and people who were positive influences, and people who were the victims of this terrible tradegy. You do not memorialze a man that MURDERED 32 people. this is ridiculous.

    Comment by Anonymous — April 26, 2007 @ 5:18 pm

  33. If one of my loved ones were killed by a mad man like that freak I would not want to have to pass by a rembrance of him as I went to visit the memorial for the innocent. This rock garden is supposed to be a place of peace for people to mourn the loss of the victims, not be reminded everyday of some asshole who was just jealous of those more fortunate than he.
    I think his parents should also take their own lives or be killed in cold blood so that they can spend the rest of eternity in hell with the monster that they sent out into the world for the rest of us to deal with.
    If that girl wanted to “do what is morally right” she should have taken interest in this sicko when he was alive, now she wants to be a hero who does what is right. Too little too late sweetie!

    Comment by Liz — April 26, 2007 @ 5:22 pm

  34. Did this chick lose any loved ones????? I’d like to know, because if her brother, or sister, or child, or parent or friend if it was any one of those that died at the murderers hands,if she would still want him to have memorial. Its not up to her to place a memorial for that man. I agree with (31). It should be up to the families of those lost in this tragedy to decide if he gets a memorial.

    Comment by Ken — April 26, 2007 @ 5:34 pm

  35. Katelynn’s misguided, touchy-feely attempt at being oh-so politically correct is the equivalent of memorializing at ground zero the terrorists who flew the planes into the World Trade Center towers.
    WAKE UP people. There are those in this world who are purely EVIL .. and purely evil persons do not deserve to be forgiven, remembered, immortalized nor memorialized.

    Comment by Bob H. — April 26, 2007 @ 5:35 pm

  36. Misplaced compassion is morally wrong. The murderer acted on his own with premeditation in order to satisfy an evil desire. He alone was responsible for his heinous acts of killing 32 innocent lives. The victims and their families deserve compassion. The murderer deserves contempt, not a stone.

    Comment by Jerry — April 26, 2007 @ 5:46 pm

  37. Cho deserves nothing, but I assume he had a family that loved him and I would like to see the stone placed for them. Cho got off easy. His family will have to suffer from his actions the rest of their lives. I applaud the compassion of the person placing the stone.

    Comment by Shelley — April 26, 2007 @ 5:49 pm

  38. I understand that this girl is standing up for what she belives in, and i respect that. But she is showing compassion for the wrong person. She should show compassion for his family, his family is going to have to live in shame for the rest of their lives because of what their son did. If you ask me, Cho got off Extremely easy, too easy, his parents will have to live with this for the rest of their lives i would lay the stone for his family, who are also victims.

    Comment by Diane — April 26, 2007 @ 6:01 pm

  39. Bullying is a societal problem that needs to be taken more seriously. We cannot seem to understand this, as school shootings have regularly come up within these past few years. What Cho went through was terrible, as were his actions. When you target someone who is unstable, you don’t know what you are going to get. He probably reached a point where he felt so much pain that this was his way of relieving it or lashing out against the world that he knew, because his reality sounded like a very painful one. He wanted to share this reality that he knew, with everyone. It is so easy to just sit back and say how awful mass murderers and terrorists are, but we need to look at how we as a society, have helped contribute to this. You need to look at the big picture.

    Comment by cervixpeluso — April 26, 2007 @ 6:03 pm

  40. The young lady who placed the stone for Cho is in the best of our spiritual traditions, and shows the goodness in her heart, the kind of light that overcomes darkness. The young lady who made the first vulgar comment above (about what “she does in private”) shows herself for what she is- part of what is ugly and mean spirited in the world.

    Comment by Susanna — April 26, 2007 @ 6:04 pm

  41. Mental illness is a disease.

    Comment by tomallenny — April 26, 2007 @ 6:09 pm

  42. There is no such thing as “misplaced compassion”–compassion is compassion period. And Ms. Johnson had courage that obviously most of us don’t have, to show compassion to someone in death who apparently had little to no experience of it in life. Compassion is not based on merit–and neither is memorializing someone. The reason why compassion is compassion is that it is given freely, unconditionally, without regard to merit. God showed us that compassion by sending us Jesus Christ, who commanded us and tried to teach us how to love each other–even going so far as to teach us to “love our enemies”. Looks like we all have a lot to learn–and this is true not just of Judeo-Christians, but of all of us. Perhaps if we all showed a little bit more compassion and unconditional love to one another, we wouldn’t need to have discussions like this.

    Comment by Jennifer Oaks — April 26, 2007 @ 6:12 pm

  43. 32 lives were lost, murdered at the hands of one person. That person should not be part of a remmberance along with the other 32 people. While he himself died by his own will and hand. He took the untimely life of 32 other people. While this tragedy will be remembered and no one will forget the murdered, why would someone want to embellish a murderer’s name. Then why was Timothy McVeigh not also remembered along with the 100 plus lives he took. It is because history will always remember the culprits of the deed but it is not for us the populous to place a memory of the murderer along side with others that died. The murderer has his/her own place in history.

    Comment by Rita — April 26, 2007 @ 6:16 pm

  44. The well-meaning student who placed the stone for Cho states that 33 lives were lost, not 32. These lives were not lost – they were taken. I would not be so forgiving. The 32 victims are the tip of the iceberg; the misery, hurt and anguish inflicted extends to hundreds, possibly thousands, of friends, family members and acquaintances. Possibly, someday, when the grief has regressed, we can inquire as to the demons that possessed Cho’s soul. Not yet.

    Comment by Larry — April 26, 2007 @ 6:28 pm

  45. Lets leave one for Hitler also. He killed six million and killed himself in the end. Lets build a national memorial for all serial killers and mass murderers. That is the sick way this country is turning. Liberals like this are destroying our moral fiber. Their humanity is backwards. And dont try to bring the bible into this because God never mentions anything about this. I love it when ignorant people who have never read the bible all of a sudden believe they can interperate something they know absolutely nothing about. This is just another example of someone trying to be unique in their approach to this tragedy. I guarantee this woman doesnt really believe this way. She did it and has learned to think she believes this way. You can tell she is a liberal because this is something Rosie would do. “WWRD” “What Would Rosie Do”

    Comment by xris — April 26, 2007 @ 6:35 pm

  46. i kind agree with her i know its hard i have a daughter in college i would prop go nuts if that happen at her school. my thought and prays to all family members at vt and those who lost there lives. may god bless virginia tech remember what your teacher said . NG TONY FROM NEW YORK

    Comment by tony — April 26, 2007 @ 6:37 pm

  47. this selfish coward deserves not to be remembered. Everyone has problems or gets picked on or feels neglected at some time in there lives, getting past that and moving on is what builds character and personality. Mental instability or not this weak minded coward knew what he was doing, sending that video to NBC. Society does not bear the burden for this tragic event, The coward who murdered 32 people and devastated the families of those innocent people bears this burden. Yes I believe this person needed help and unfortunately he did not get it but he is still fully responsible for his actions

    Comment by mike — April 26, 2007 @ 6:48 pm

  48. When I responded to an email I received on Tue about the shooting I replied that we needed to pray for the shooter and his family also as for them this was a major tragedy too. I don’t support what he did, but he too should be remembered. My comments were later sent out in a worldwide distribution, and after seeing them I felt that what I said was even more correct. Let the 33rd stone stay and honor it too. We Hokies stand together no matter what-and that still includes Cho.
    LET’S GO HOKIES!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

    Comment by Steve Clemons VT 73/76 — April 26, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

  49. It’s like honoring Jeffery Dahmer, give us all a break and grow up!

    Comment by David — April 26, 2007 @ 7:38 pm

  50. I think it was nice of her to make a Memorial to the Killer also. Because I feel he was just as much a victim as all the others. But many wont see it, unless they can understand Cho’s torment mind. And why he really did kill as he did and why he killed who he did…

    I analyzed why he did it, but most shrinks wont tell you why….Most know he had a hate for SNOB’s , but would they understand the underlining reason behind those thoughts and feelings?

    Unless you can understand how the psyche works under drugs and those kinds of thoughts, mixed together
    with his anger issues for a girl; a specific girl. You wont be able to understand what would push a person over the edge to do as Cho did. For many did not know he had such complex thoughts or what he
    felt beneath his cold exterior; now how he felt towards such fellow students. Hard for a student to be singled out and even more because he’ seen as a “druggy”. Or weird. Just because your different.

    Psychologist and psychiatrist can understand and yet will never be able to prevent. For psychology do not understand the psychology behind their own psychology of such behavior, for it usually is caused by such incompetence of really understanding the way many think, and more so under the influence of such psychotropic drugs .They do not understand why students kill because they cant fully understand the dysfunction of spirit versus mind. One kills when they have no fear of a G*D. Believe it or not. But psychology cant understand that, for if they did, they themselves would initiate service to G*d. But instead they get you to believe drugs is your answer, your G*D. They just don’t fully understand how they are the ones that are getting more people on drugs than off. Shrinks Mind altering chemical as a child. Once they hit adult age or any age and have a sudden urge, they wont be able to contain their own feelings, for as a child who was placed on any such drug as a child, his brain has been affected. and when they reach a growing age or a change in their hormones or the chemicals in their brains, which ever comes first, is when a former drug infected brain will show signs of deterioration and will lose the ability to stifle such thoughts. Because the drugs is what causes these behaviors. But many parents have had their kids on Ritalin and other drugs as a child, and when they become older and they get to a point where they cant cope is when these firecracker as I see them will become dynamite and explode. and kill! It will be those on the lowest totem pole of their classes. Its more than a proven fact but a denied fact for Psychiatrist and psychologist do NOT have the answers, but they seal us these problems when they put such persons on such drugs, which over time will turn their brains to incompetence, and also a certain brain type wotn be able to cope. those inferior delegated individuals that ere alienated as children who still are as a adults because of the former drugs left them unprepared to deal with such changes.
    able to cope. They get an overload and explode as this student has, and usually on a level that could have been prevented IF they were not placed on such drugs when their brains were under developed. Now we are seeing the results of our former years placing kids on such drugs to control their behavior as children are taking its toll when they reach to a higher plane. These kids grow up and just get worst not better, because of being placed on drugs and were not able to learn how to cope with the pressures at a lower grade and when they become older adults they will lose all ability to cope. Because they were indoctrinated with drug therapy as a child. I am just surprised more of this has not happened on a larger scale. WE don’t need terrorist to kill our dreams and hopes, the psychologist and psychiatrist did that for many when they were children by placing children on Ritalin and other drugs, they predisposed our children to be come adults with worse problems, for this happened because our children were coerce by such thoughtless psychologist and psychiatrist to conform and not be normal children and were given such drugs as children. Its why their brains cant handle the stress of College or High school. They have not learned to control their bodies and minds as a child and when their parents could not deal with their hyperactivity, placed them on drugs. and no developing brain should be on such garbage before their brains are fully able to handle such drugs.

    . Placed on such behavior controlling medications when they ere children.

    These children did not have a chance to not become mentally well adults. But losers in their school..These
    Tech schools have the most pressure for success these days, too. Because Tech schools resent those who initiate the norms, and wen there is stiff competition, many students fail to achieve their goals and blame those who can. Because they were given more advantages with wealth. And those without those kinds of advantages cant achieve because they don’t have the things needed to achieve. Like more money that is needed for supplies or other ability to gain what is needed that comes with wealth or good looks or more brains.
    So losers have much against them besides their short comings of personality and technical knowledge. Not all Orientals are created with the Technological abilities to succeed. Lack of money or looks, is constant reminder to “loser mentality of their inability to be all they want to be. From the time a child starts school this is always a burden for being accepted, having “stuff” And when a child has other baggage as a mental illness, that tops the charts for being the “loser” group. It places the ONE that one student in a box while others in a circle of friends. All students should be taught to interact with everyone, and isolate anyone whose different, has less money or below average looks etc. Not one student should be singled out.

    This is one reason but their are a multitude of reasons why this Cho killed. But it was the combination of factors that put this student at Risk for such behaviors. Not just his looks or his parents ability to send him in style to college, but also his mental aberration which was partly learned and partly caused by drug interventions. When a psychologist gets involved and when they feel a student needs drugs and they take them, they should be responsible for such behaviors for many of the drugs they prescribe to students are always on a trial and error basis, and this is what happens when there is an error in prescribing such medication. BUT… Psychologist and psychiatrist are never held responsible for inciting such behavior by misdiagnosing a patient with such devastating affects. But they should be held responsible or lose their license when their “clients’ go haywire, for these mind altering drugs are just as dangerous as illegal drugs, but not a single psychiatrist is held responsible for a wrong diagnosis or giving a client medication that can affect them so bad as to cause a person to kill, but it does happen, especially when given antidepressants and anti psychotics. If you are not truly diagnosed depressed or psychotic these two types of mediation can inflame the brain and make those behaviors happen. Believe it. I was a guinea pig for such a cause as this. And if your not psychotic you become psychotic taking anti =psychotic medication. Dr’s cause this to many patience’s but a re not held responsible for such behaviors, because they aren’t!! And they get a way with such murder by lethal medical prescriptions. Believe it. And from what I saw, his language was affected and his linear thinking was also affected. He did not fluently make sense. And for many minds, the language part will be affected as his was if they are on psychotropic drugs like antidepressants or anti psychotics. I can tell you from what I know of how the brain formulates language, Cho was definitely on a drug, a Psychotropic drug. Because they will make your language affected and you wont be able to make linear thoughts or decisions sense, yet you can carry out angered thoughts, for they will be very clear on such drugs. Anger negates a sedative affect, for a psychotropic drug slows something down, while speeds others up; the linguistic side of the brain is slowed, but the action part of thought is speeded up., for anger predisposes a person to not being able to think right brain thoughts but will be able to react. So your actions will be done that do not make sense. For those who have anger issues would be predispose to even in many individuals for they affect language and other parts of the brain to their detriment.

    So don’t blame Cho for all he did, blame the shrinks that got him more screwed up. For once you see a shrink, your never the same again, and even worst if they start you on those dam legal drugs. They are no better than illegal drugs off the street. They both ruin your life. Once you take such drugs your life is ruined, no wonder Cho disliked all the Preppy kids, for he probably felt he would never have such a life as they represented to him. He was made to feel as a loser in their eyes. He had no hope, why else did he throw his life away? I am sure a shrink made him feel less than eh was before he went to see one. Fro after you see a shrink, you never have a life again. For they see you as a troubled person. But one thing I did learn, all they a re supposed to do is help you find out your problem, give you a solution, but still YOU have to solve your own problems. But after see a shrink, they give you even more problems to solve that are way over your head and you never get out of that dam rabbit hole they put you in. Because they label you less than you are and make you feel less human that you are, all because they changed you from what God intended you to be. Drugs do that to you. I am sure its what made Cho kill. Anyone that gets brainwashed by a shrink will never be the same. Its why He killed, because he could not get out of their grips, out from under the stigma of being labeled “crazy” or mentally ill. Trust me, you never get out from under such a label. You never have a life, for they give that information out and shrinks have a way of stalking you the rest of your life, for they are in cahoots with the lawyers, judges and police. You have no life after you are drawn down the Hole where
    Alice in Wonderland goes. For Psychologist want you to think they are the ones that get you thru that hole with drugs as a means to escape. But in reality those drugs is what makes you think worse and affect the way YOU perceive, but don’t change your circumstances. Only when your brain and mind is cooperating together with clarity you hope to have a life where you are capable of making the right decision. Cho had to be on drugs to have done all he did, there was no way he could not do that. His brain was probably on them for a short time, for it does not take a very long time for the brain chemicals to initiate such bad behaviors. I know, I was on one drug that caused me quite a bit of problems. and if I had never been on them I would not be in the fix I am today. Listen and learn stay away from shrinks for all they do is mess with your head and your never the same afterwards. If anything Cho took the easy way out, I did not have the guts to kill myself or another human being, I thank G*d I had a stronger constitution of character than he did. But maybe the next person that is given such drugs may not be as strong and KILL!!

    Comment by susan — April 26, 2007 @ 8:12 pm

  51. college is different from high school people, if you don’t like people it’s easy enough to avoid them on a huge campus with thousands of people…. he didn’t kill ONLY the snobs, he probably killed a person he never even knew existed

    Comment by race — April 27, 2007 @ 12:22 am

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